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Dana is exactly the type of guest I had in mind when I named this show ‘Experts’ on the Wire.

The word expert is certainly overused. But to me, an expert is someone who actually has a depth of experience around what they are talking about AND can explain it fluently and clearly with the audience in mind.

I threw all kinds of topics at her – and without skipping a beat, Dana delivers insights, tools, tips, and stories at every turn.

This discussion includes:

  • Getting clients to take action
  • Engagement as the new ‘ranking factor’ for local SEO
  • The best definition of ‘persona’ I have ever heard
  • How to do Audience Research at scale
  • The myth of ‘surprise and delight’
  • Dealing with SEO ‘scope creep’
  • Branding in PPC

Buckle up – this is a good one!

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Show Agenda & Timestamps

  • Dana’s Background [1:40]
  • Dana’s multiple fields of expertise [2:26]
    • Kick Point [3:00]
    • Dana’s Background in Local SEO & Meta Reporting [4:47]
  • Dana’s Speaking Background & Past Careers [6:10]
  • Kick Point Services [8:25]
  • SEO and Online Marketing Misunderstandings [12:38]
    • Scope Creep [14:53]
    • How to get clients to take action [15:57]
    • Distinguishing between bad channels and bad execution [17:10]
  • Local SEO is about Engagement [19:22]
    • Engagement Factors [20:11]
    • Knowledge Panel as Engagement Health Check [23:48]
    • How can people get a Knowledge Panel [25:13]
    • What you should be monitoring [26:19]
    • Review Acquisition [27:27]
    • Twitter Mentions [29:34]
  • How Dana uses BuzzSumo [33:11]
    • How to help clients build a relationship with Bloggers [34:07]
  • How to make your customers feel valuable- Not all sessions are created equal [36:39]
    • Full Contact tool [39:30]
    • Nuzzel tool [42:04]
    • Brand Searches [43:33]
    • Data Mine for Phone Calls [44:29]
    • It’s not a war and don’t surprise and delight clients [45:40]
    • Helpful Takeaways- Talk to your customers, personas, surveys [47:04]
    • What is a Persona and how to build one [50:32]
    • PPC and Branding [55:09]
  • What is R [56:53]
  • How does Dana keep up with changes in SEO [57:38]
  • Upcoming Conferences and where to find Dana Online [58:58]

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About Dan Shure

Hi! I'm Dan Shure. I write all of the posts and host all of the podcast episodes you'll find on the Evolving SEO blog. Say hello on Twitter @dan_shure!


  • September 14, 2017 Reply


    Just listened to this episode today and it was so good! I want to be Dana when I grow up. 🙂 She is so knowledgable about a bunch of different areas. Will have to re-listen to check out a lot of the tools she mentions. Great episode!

    • September 14, 2017 Reply

      Dan Shure

      Awesome glad it was helpful! Most of the tools should be in the show notes above 🙂

  • September 15, 2017 Reply


    Hey Dan, found this podcast after seeing your youtube video on Quora + semrush (which was found from Growth Hackers forum), just to give you a bit of attribution 😛

    Great podcasts, I was wondering if there’s any easy way to download them?


  • October 13, 2017 Reply


    Loved the commentary on branding and PPC! Would love more on that!

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